The markings are/:
TELSTG.No53MKI.
OS.1075GA.
WRP in a stamped diamond followed by 1852
Any idea as to what I have here and any value?
Thanks, Ken
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Kenfal |
Need Help Identifying Martini Conversion Rifle |
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O/R
Posts: 1 (04/30/09 10:44:24) |
I have obtained a rifle I know nothing about. It is a converted Martini rifle. On the left side of the receiver is "Converted for the NRA by
W.W.Greener" he serial number on the receiver and barrel match. The right side of the receiver V.R., underneath is ENFIELD, underneath that is 1888, under
that is II and under that is N. The barrel has 22 L stamped on it. The center of the barrel on top in front of the scope is W.W.GREENER MAKER BIRMINGHAM. There
is a scope mounted on the rifle.
The markings are/: TELSTG.No53MKI. OS.1075GA. WRP in a stamped diamond followed by 1852 Any idea as to what I have here and any value? Thanks, Ken
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Posts: 4975 (04/30/09 11:54:40) Moderator Emeritus |
Sure based on your description, you have a Martini Henry converted by W.W.Greener to .22 Long for use in UK-NRA miniature rifle competition.
For more information on Miniature rifle competition. http://rifleman.org.uk/welcome.html It's value, well what did you pay for it? Pictures would go a long way giving more specific information. |
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Posts: 2 (04/30/09 12:25:48) |
Thank you!
I'll try to post some pictures. I bought a group of rifles so it's hard to say what I did pay. It's a very interesting rifle and will probably keep it but if I decide to sell it I would like an idea of the correct value. I've never seen one like it before. Ken
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The Double D |
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Posts: 4977 (04/30/09 13:58:25) Moderator Emeritus |
Now it looks like a Martini Henry converted by W.W.Greener to .22 Long for use in UK-NRA miniature rifle competition that was then converted to a .22 Sporter.
Looks like a heavy tapered barrel. How does it shoot?
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Posts: 452 (04/30/09 15:03:56) Sergeant Major |
Ken,
I believe your scope was made for a British sniper rifle. As such you should be able to trade it for a much better quality Leupold or Nikon. |
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Posts: 158 (05/02/09 13:21:13) Sergeant |
If you measured the bore diameter in inches you could call it a rifle scope. More likely it is for a "rifle" with wheels or something with
tracks.
Please note it is the scope mount and NOT the scope that has
adjustments for windage and elevation.
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Pinky |
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Posts: 1093 (05/02/09 18:16:29) Sergeant Major |
John
there are several scopes that are similar in style to this one used on Lee Enfield's in both world wars and one though not the same profile has its elevation and windage adjusted on the mounts. Namely the winchester A5. the ones that are closer in profile are the Fidglands, E.R Watts & Son and Periscopic Prism Co. These can all be found in the book "The Lee Enfield" by Ian Skenerton on pages 169,290,518-522 and 523 so it could well have been designed for a rifle with a two feet traction system. There are probably more within the book that I have missed. It is very similar to the No 32 MkI/II and III all similar all three had scope mounted adjustment. There were scopes made in the late 1800's similar to the Winchester one using adjustment in the ring of the mount which would seem to indicate it is an earlier style of adjustment rather than a later style though the scope is more of the early 1900's style around the two world wars era. Pinky
It is not a gun. It is not a Weapon. It is not a firearm. It is a single cylinder single stroke internal combustion engine with a free floating piston!
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Posts: 457 (05/03/09 12:49:17) Sergeant Major |
John,
All I can say is duh! I completely missed the lack of a turret. To add insult to injury, I owned one of those artillery aiming scopes. I sent it along with a British sniper scope that had a separated lens that looked like an active Petri dish to ABO. They were able to use the lenses from the aiming scope in the sniper scope. |
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Posts: 3 (05/04/09 15:41:36) |
Thanks for all of the info. I have not shot the rifle.
Ken |
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Posts: 5117 (06/04/09 07:56:49) Autocrat |
I've got several (well, four) of these converted Martinis and they're tons of fun to shoot. They come in all kinds of configurations, with original-ish
wood or sporterized wood, some polished to a high shine or reblued, some that look like they've been used as rebar. The bores almost all take a lot of
scrubbing (unless you buy it from Hitch, who will clean it for you before he sells it) to show rifling, but once you get the lead out, they're good
shooters.
As for price, I've paid $350 to $750, with the high end being for a really pristine and unusual MH carbine conversion. For your gun, you could expect to get in the mid-400's at online auction, but I've been surprised (high and low) before, so my opinion is worth exactly what you paid me for it. Cheers, Michael
I've never heard anyone complain about "too much quality" in a gun, but too little will get you a trip to the ER with your spare fingers in a
baggie.
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Posts: 4 (06/13/09 05:53:26) |
I got this rifle on trade and my interest really lies elsewhere. I have sold the rifle and based on the feedback someone got a very good deal.
Thanks you all for your replies, Ken |
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