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No, YOU pull the trigger...
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 Tikihut27 |
No, YOU pull the trigger... |
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Posts: 34 (10/03/08 01:55:47) |
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Carignan Salieres |
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Veteran of the Regiment
Posts: 4166 (10/03/08 04:15:03) Swashbuckler |
Is the guy holding that pistol really small? Yikes!
-Ryan |
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Pukka Bundook |
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Veteran of the Regiment
Posts: 1761 (10/03/08 06:11:53) Veteran of the Regiment |
Tiki,
The chain'l be to wrap around your arm, so you don't have to go looking for it (the pistol!) after the shot, Right? Looks a very good solid gun! ..and well put together. R |
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MichaelNH |
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Posts: 4951 (10/03/08 07:18:55) Autocrat |
And after you shoot it, you can use the butt as a hammer to nail your arm back to your shoulder.
Who am I kidding? I'd do it in a heartbeat. |
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Viclav |
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Sergeant Major
Posts: 379 (10/03/08 07:56:53) Colour Sergeant |
I'll bet pulling the trigger on that hoss pistol would be more, um, "illuminating" even than Joe's Lord carbine.
Victor "Always carry a firearm east of Aldgate, Watson." |
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Jim Durling |
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Sergeant Major
Posts: 216 (10/03/08 09:27:06) Lance Sergeant |
I shoot my little Snider carbine with full loads but would probably think twice before I tried it with that. But what an experience.
Jim |
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Tikihut27 |
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Lance Sergeant
Posts: 37 (10/03/08 23:06:42) |
Pukka Bundook wrote:Oh, yes, "Superior Quality! English Manufature!" And you might indeed have to go looking for your arm, too, after firing it. And you might never find all of it. This is my primary gun dealer, and he is much smaller than most Americans, but then, most Afghans are much smaller than most Americans. He is a rare commodity, and honest bazaar dealer. He has figured out that if he can get that reputation with Americans, word of mouth will do the rest. He likes to show me things like this and say, "No, this one is real, truly, it is so." And then laugh at my expression. |
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MichaelNH |
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Posts: 4954 (10/04/08 12:18:07) Autocrat |
You bought it, right? Tell me you bought it.
Once upon a time, Coyote was going to build me one of those using a US 1855 Dragoon Pistol kit as the starting point. I think he may have built one for himself eventually but didn't get to the second. Ah, nothing like dislocating your elbow to get your day off to a good start. Cheers, Michael |
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Corporal
Posts: 24 (12/23/08 03:28:57) |
Gents....Couldent you load it down to maybe 30 grains and a round ball??
Just because it can take 80+ grains doesnt mean you NEED to fire it will full rifle loads.....Or does it. 
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GJ |
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Sergeant
Posts: 111 (12/23/08 05:41:49) Corporal |
Years ago, before cartridge pistols were banned here in the UK, a friend had a howda pistol made for the standard Snider Cartridge. It started off as a back
action lock double barreled 12 bore shotgun with a Jones rotary under lever locking. The lock plates had their back ends bent a little and a pistol stock
added. The barrels were cut down and lined with .577 rifled tubes.
I had a few shots with it and as the saying goes "it came back with real authority!" but it was not unpleasant to shoot. Not apparantly in the same league as the Gabbett-Fairfax automatic pistol which took the Mars .45 long of 1899. It was said "all who fired it did not want to fire it again!". However I made sure only to cock one hammer at a time. I may be foolhardy but not stupid. GJ |
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Pinky |
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Veteran of the Regiment
Posts: 925 (12/23/08 05:52:12) Sergeant Major |
GJ
When your young that is called "a sense of adventure" Cocking both hammers that is! Pinky
It is not a gun. It is not a Weapon. It is not a firearm. It is a single cylinder single stroke internal combustion engine with a free floating piston!
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Jalapeno Jake |
Bizaire, I mean Bazaar Pistol | ||
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Sergeant Major
Posts: 455 (12/25/08 10:11:23) Sergeant Major |
Tikihut27,
Did you buy that baby? If not would/could you buy it for me (if the price is reasonable). Jake |
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Reese Williams |
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O/R
Posts: 15 (12/25/08 12:06:02) |
In my part of the world pulling the trigger on something like that is usually preceded by the phrase "Hey y'all, watch this!" Followed by by one
of the survivors commenting "Damn, I ain't never seen one do that before,"
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Jalapeno Jake |
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Sergeant Major
Posts: 456 (12/25/08 18:00:18) Sergeant Major |
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Tikihut27 |
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Lance Sergeant
Posts: 64 (01/07/09 07:11:12) |
Haven't been to pistols in a while.
Jalepeno, I didn't buy it. 
It didn't have anything real on it but the breech, and I already have an extra one of those. Now I am home, so no more opportunities... Oh well! |
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Jalapeno Jake |
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Sergeant Major
Posts: 457 (01/13/09 15:24:02) Sergeant Major |
Ah well, I probably woulda hurt myself trying it out.
Thanks for the reply, Jake |
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RichardWV |
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Veteran of the Regiment
Posts: 714 (01/13/09 22:57:48) Sergeant Major |
What a missed opportunity for a "Hey Vern, watch this" video as it was passed around at the next organized shoot. We could start a new medal for the
"fellowship of the broken wrist" made in the form of a cast, with black, blue and purple for ribbon colors.
I have no idea what something like that would cost over there, but if it wasn't too much it would be worth it for the effect on others. Think of the looks you could get taking it to a concealed carry class. Just tell folks it is your backup pistol and let them wonder what mountain howitzer you carry normally. Actually of all the goofy things we've seen make up over there, this one is the first that I wish I had a chance to actually examine. |
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GrantR Canada |
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Veteran of the Regiment
Posts: 1999 (01/14/09 20:49:21) Forum Wallah |
I've been subscribed to this thread - for the 'bemusement factor' we have all been enjoying - but it has just occurred to me that perhaps whoever
built this hand cannon wasn't as daft as we have been assuming .....
There was a .577 pistol cartridge, after all, for which a variety of handguns were chambered - including howdah pistols and even quite a few revolvers! I believe it would chamber and fire in a rifle chamber ( .... a friend who had a Belgian-made .577 revolver for a while used the same brass, shortened ....) but I wonder if this pistol might even have been chambered specifically for this cartridge, rather than the usual .577 Snider load? For ease of reference the metric dimensions given in this diagram work out to: bullet diameter .612", case mouth diameter .640", case length .8228", and OAL 1.20" ...... 
One such cartridge shown with a .45ACP round for comparison- 
A .577 revolver by P. Webley & Sons (scanned from "The Webley Story".....) 
Grant Rombough
Medicine Hat, Alberta Canada ("Rattlesnake Jack Robson", Scout, Rocky Mountain Rangers, 1885) WEBSITE: "RATTLESNAKE JACK'S" 
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RichardWV |
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Veteran of the Regiment
Posts: 716 (01/14/09 23:08:01) Sergeant Major |
I doubt that the maker would have been aware of a .577 pistol cartridge, but you never know. Looking at that revolver I would think the size of the caliber
would be an effective deterent to crime without even thinking about pulling the trigger. My wife has a pet theory with her Ruger Super Red Hawk that just
showing the thing would put most folks to flight and if she shot it inside the house the intruder would probably die of a heart attack even if she missed (or
at the minimum have a laundry problem). I believe that if someone pulled a revolver like the Webley shown the impact would be about the same.
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Bill Curtisra |
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Sergeant Major
Posts: 143 (01/15/09 02:28:32) |
These revolvers were popular following the campaigns in the Sudan after the Mahdi's uprising which led to the death of General Gordon in Khartoum and the
disaster which befell the Gordon Relief Column. The Mahdists, popularly referred to here as Fuzzy-Wuzzies (I remember my grandfather in the 1930s mentioning
them) were almost impossible to stop with normal bullets in time to stop them cleaving the shooter to the teeth with their long Crusader style swords. The .577
Pistol was commonly referred to as the Wogstopper.
W. S. Curtis, A.C.I.I.,
Vice President (Hon.), Crimean War Research Society, HBSA (Hon. Life), Assistant Curator, Museum of the National Rifle Association, Whitworth Rifle Research Project, MLAGB, NLRC, ATRA, &c. |
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Viclav |
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Sergeant Major
Posts: 414 (01/15/09 04:49:17) Colour Sergeant |
I remember reading Ross Seyfried's G&A article on the .577 Bland revolver and his transformation of a Ruger Super Redhawk into a modern version of the
same. Lusted for a .577 revolver ever since. And to think the U.S. Army was content to think the puny 45LC would help their Moro problem! Seriously though,
someone among our gallant membership has got to devote their time and spare parts to fabricating a version of this Snider pistol... and shooting it, naturally!
A worthy project in the interest of scientific inquiry, surely?
Victor "Always carry a firearm east of Aldgate, Watson." |
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